Know your rights!

The first thing you need to know is that in Australia, vaccination is not compulsory. It doesn’t matter what your doctor, school principal, mother in law or neighbour say – no school is legally allowed to discriminate against a child because of their vaccination status, and if they do try, you can make a human rights complaint against them.

Unfortunately with the No Jab No Pay laws coming in to force on the 1st January 2016 the government can now withhold Child Care Rebate and all Child Care Benefits (including Grandparent Child Care Benefit, Special Child Care Benefit or Jobs, Education and Training Child Care Fee Assistance), the only affected family tax benefit is the Family Tax Benefit A end-of-year annual supplement (presently $726 per child). The other FTB Part A and Part B benefits are NOT affected.

You can still get a medical exemption but this has also been tightened to only accept anaphylactic reactions to individual vaccines or vaccine components, natural immunity, and temporary exemptions are also given to immunocompromised children.

All Medicare and Centrelink offices as well as every GP and council vaccination clinic are required to have this form available, but they rarely do so feel free to click the link above and download and print the form yourself so you can bring it with you when you go to get it signed.

The significance of conscientious objection to vaccination and what it’s loss means to us all…

In the late 1990’s, the Australian government was considering making parents prove their knowledge of the vaccination debate prior to allowing them to not vaccinate their children. This was early days for the AVN, but we found out about this legislation after it had already passed through the House of Representatives and just days before the debate started in the Senate. We mobilised parents from the Gold Coast and Northern NSW, raised $2,000 for airfares and the help of a lobbyist and photocopied an information pack for every single Senator which we hand-delivered during our time in Canberra.

We met with dozens of Senators and Representatives and were helped greatly by Democrats Senators, the Greens party and several Labor MPs including 2 who were also doctors!

The outcome was that we were able to get 2 out of 3 amendments to the Childcare Payments Bill passed through parliament and as a result, parents who had chosen not to vaccinate would not be required to prove anything to anyone in order to access the same government entitlements as those parents who vaccinated fully.

This was a huge step forward for parental rights and as a result of the action of our small, membership and donation-driven organisation, a generation of Australians have been protected against draconian laws which would have subjected them to discrimination and financial penalties.

So when you feel that only large groups and rich people can change society for the better, remember the saying by Margaret Mead:

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”

UPDATE:

Who would have thought that we would be called on to fight the same battle yet again in 2015?

A small group of committed individuals answered the call, including the AVN President Tasha David. We went to Canberra several times during 2015 and successfully lobbied the Senators to give us a Senate inquiry in to the No Jab No Pay bill.

Unfortunately, with the passing of the No Jab No Pay law in November 2015 all of our hard work was undone and the government showed it’s contempt for the 99% of the 3000 submissions sent in to the Senate inquiry speaking against the bill, including our expert witness Dr Lucija Tomljenovic and submissions by Dr Tetyana Obukhanych PhD and Dr Suzanne Humphries.

They took away our conscientious objection exemption including the religious exemption and have given themselves the power to withhold childcare payments and the family tax benefit A supplement payment from families who do not fully vaccinate

The government has made it that only the rich have a true choice when it comes to vaccination in Australia, even though they are the ones who have the lowest vaccination rates. But then this was about making a political point at the expense of loving and well informed low income parents in Australia, not about improving the health of our children.

But if you thought that this is over you could not be more wrong, that is the thing with committed individuals they never give up.  Please help us to help you and fight coercive and discriminatory vaccination laws in Australia, join the AVN or volunteer your skills, time and energy to help us become a social force who has the power to make change happen!

165 comments on “Know your rights!
  1. Richard Heck says:

    It seems that the government is changing their immunisation policy as of 1 July 2012.

    “The government is introducing reforms to Australia’s childhood immunisation arrangements.

    These changes mean:
    Families will need to have their children fully immunised to receive the existing $726 per child Family Tax Benefit Part A supplement, replacing the Maternity Immunisation Allowance from 1 July 2012.

    http://immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/faq-related-payments

    • admin says:

      If you will read to the bottom of the page you’ve linked to, Richard, you will see that the same conscientious and medical exemptions are still available and no parent will lose out on any financial entitlement as a result of not vaccinating or not vaccinating fully. Of course, the government should have put the exemption details into the first paragraph since many people – like you – would be deceived into thinking that vaccination was compulsory for these payments when it definitely is not!

    • Andrea says:

      Can someone tell me if the No jab no pay in Victoria applies to the maternity leave pay?

      • AVN admin says:

        No Jab No Pay is federal legislation. No Jab No Play in Victoria only deals with eligibility to access preschool/kindy. Please read the information on this legislation on our website for further information.

  2. kelsey says:

    I took my objection form into medicare and centrelink this morning only to be informed that i will be missing out on my family tax benifit part A supplement for the end of finacial year. I was told that the form was to be signed and returned by the 30th of June but nowhere does it actually state this. Very unhappy

    • admin says:

      Hi Kelsey,

      You were misinformed by both departments (I know – not surprising…) You did NOT have to return the form by the 30th of June – from what I was told, you have 6 months AFTER the deadline to return the forms. I would contact you local member of parliament and ask them to check for you. If you were misinformed, please do report the offices you were at for giving you the wrong information.

      • nicole says:

        Hi i am in qld and my two eldest were not vaccinated it is not because of medical issues but because i had a bad feeling about it i wanted to know can i get an objection form done still or is it completely to late i was told i will not get paid the 726 for the children that are not fully vaccinated i refuse to allow them to give my kids the hpv vaccine but i do not know what channels to go through to sort this out any help would be great thanks

        • Tracey says:

          Hi
          Yes I am I. The same situation and am looking for a doctor to back my choice .
          I have faith I. The human race and this organisation is aweome . Thankyou

        • Deborah Norman says:

          Hi Nicole, I am in qld too. I spoke with centerlink this morning and they said objections are no longer allowed and any letters from specialist like the one i gave them 9 years ago know longer apply. I am not concerned about the 700 they can put that where the sun does not shine, my childs health cannot be bought however my concern is the rumor that they will come after us for back pay from the previous years we did not vaccinate.

  3. Liz Fahey says:

    Thank you for all this hard work I’m just about to fill out an exemption form so I will let you know how it goes 🙂

  4. Anna says:

    Hi there, we have not lodged our conscientious objection form here in vic. Would I be too late in doing so?

  5. Anna says:

    Also, can you please let me know what our rights would be if Abott does cut family tax benefits to non-vaxers? Or if labor implements their “no jab no play” here in VIC, if they get in after the state elections? Would conscientious objection form still apply?
    My daughter has a rare food protein allergy that was triggered after antibiotics at 4months of age, called FPIES (food protein enterocolitis syndrome) and I’ve been warned by drs not to vax. Would a medical exemption work here? Thanks for any light you can shed on this 🙂

  6. Kitty says:

    I had my conscientious objection form signed today and my god it was like getting blood out of stone. I have read several books on vaccination written by doctors and looked for varying opinions within my community both pro and against. Against won. I was never vaccinated and I respect my mothers decision to this day. It is one of the hardest things you will have to decide as the social pressure is enormous.

  7. Reza says:

    Thank you for the time you have taken to make it easier for every parent to protect their children from this awful injustice forced on innocent victims.

    • Kate says:

      I’m sorry but an ‘awful injustice forced on innocent victims’ is rape, torture, forced servitude, or something equally as bad. Yes, I don’t like hearing a baby cry after receiving their injections but I wouldn’t describe it as an ‘awful injustice’ foisted onto them by unfeeling monsters.

      • AVN admin says:

        Kate, you are obviously very ill-informed about the real risks of vaccination. No parent is saying that babies should not cry – they are saying that babies, children and adults become paralysed, brain damaged, develop severe autoimmunity and die following administration of vaccines. Therefore, forcing anyone to vaccinate or penalising them if they don’t is, indeed, a terrible injustice. And anyone who continues to insist that this action is NOT a terrible injustice is either a complete fool or an unfeeling monster. Which one are you?

        • Lauren says:

          Hi Admin, does this form apply in 2016??
          My 5yo is not vaccinated and I’m a single parent who is being bullied by the Govenment and GP’s into getting them done as I won’t get my certain Centrelink benefits. As a single parent I cannot afford NOT to get them done financially 🙁

          • Janelle says:

            This is one of the reasons why they absolutely can’t keep this policy going! I am not a single parent but I have talked with my husband about what would happen if he were gone.. I’d be, for lack of a better word, screwed! People that should miss out on government assistance are those spending it on alcohol, cigarettes and not on the children’s needs! Not the parents who are making a choice that they believe is beneficial to their childrens long term health and safety. Shame on the government for pressuring parents by withholding money that helps pay for healthy food, clothes and bills for these kids. Shame!!

            • Janelle says:

              Also, the only children this policy is beneficial to are those from neglectful or abusive homes. The parent who hides away from doctors because they know there child is mistreated. At least these parents will be forced to take there children to the doctors. Then, maybe these kids will be reported by the medical professionals that see them.

      • Natasha Jaber says:

        simple thing to consider. If mothers BREAST MILK has antigens very strong from birth to 3 months and continues from 4-6 months. (THIS MEANS YOUR BREAST MILK PROVIDES THE DEFENCE OR WHITE CELLS THAT FIGHT INFECTION.) WHY????? Would you force a virus or bacteria into a body that has no capability to form a defence. With in the FIRST few days of life massive changes are going on ( the black poo) the liver is starting to filter its own body waste, their plumbing is being sealed and redirected. On top of this urine out put diminishes because you milk hasn’t come in. The colostrum ( the stuff excreted by your breast before your milk start properly) it’s fantastic and helps with the transformation going on but the kidneys go under stress. The ammonia smell you might remember. ( boiled steril water would be great but not practiced ) not to mention the struggle and trauma on the skull going though the birth canal . ……SO WHY WOULD YOU INTRODUCE A KNOWN DANGEROUS VIRSUS INTO A BODY THAT IS EXHAUSED AND TRYING TO RECOVER????????? Would anyone liked to be pulled out of bed and made work after being kept awake for 5 days and be very ill to boot. You couldn’t function , so why are they making these poor baby’s go through. All these vaccines are given at crucial developmental ages. The body just can’t do it, we are all different some show more obvious signs than others.
        Viruses like to hide and take advantage when your weak. Just look at your chickenpox virus. It causes an out break but sits dormant for years and hides in your nerve tissue.to strike when your very weak. I’ve had 9 pregnancies and lost 2 ,one at term and the other in 2 .nd trimester. I come from a medical back ground and have watched the medical profession change, information collected but not annalised properly. Skills that are not being taught and passed on. No one questions any more, or more to the point they are kept busy with a lot of Unnecessay paper work. It’s happening in every profession. Do a little bit of research on what happens from birth in structure and function of a new born.

      • Marcus says:

        Isnt it amazing with the long list of toxins we put in the children THIS GENERATION IS BY FAR THE SICKEST , THESE VACCINATIONS ARE THE DOWNFALL OF MANKIND.

      • Wellread says:

        Forced vaccination is definitely an awful injustice. A true democracy would not force vaccs!

  8. kirrin says:

    If your child is not immunized, does the school/childcare have a right to share this information with other parents?

  9. Your all absolute morons on a bandwagon that’s putting baby’s like mine and children at risk due to following ridiculous misinformation from the internet for fucks sake. Do you not realize that just because some idiot put it on a “blog” doesn’t make it correct. Research the science you fools. You make me so truly angry.

    .A pissed off dad

    • meryldorey says:

      I think any baby whose parent is dealing with that much rage has more to worry about than measles, mumps or whooping cough. Perhaps it is you who needs to research the science. And to calm down a bit too. Moderating your language would also be a good start.

      • You will kill a lot of people says:

        My rage is due to people like you who don’t vaccinate your kids because you think something you read on the internet is better information than doctors trained in this area, for gods sake. My newborn child nearly died because of you idiots. The “movement” of non vaccination by genius parents like yourself is increasing the likes of whooping cough when your little turd gets it. Turns up to crèche, spreads it to the other kids.
        This is a subject worth getting angry about.
        So don’t you dare lecture me on rage you smarmy bitch. (Some more language for you).

        • meryldorey says:

          Feh – I’ve been called a lot worse by many of your ilk. Australia’s rate of vaccination against whooping cough in children – 95%. Our rate of whooping cough – higher than it was before mass vaccination. Evidence that the vaccinated are more likely to get whooping cough than the unvaccinated – available on the Department of Health’s website. But don’t let simple facts get in the way or your anger and abuse. I wouldn’t want to spoil your day when you’re obviously having so much fun.

          • Jackie says:

            Haha I find it absolutely amusing that parents of imunised children worry about diseases that they have been imunised againsed ! If they believe that the vacs work then why do they worry!

            • Kate says:

              Because the injections don’t COMPLETELY eliminate the chance that you will catch the disease you are being immunized against. It only REDUCES the risk that you could contract it.

              We are worried about other parents not immunizing their children because by doing so, they INCREASE the risk of our children catching something.

              • AVN admin says:

                If vaccines do not completely eliminate the chance that you will catch the disease, please do not call them immunisations – they don’t immunise.

                A person who is truly immunised – say someone who has contracted wild measles and recovered from it – has lifelong immunity. Even so, they are perfectly capable of carrying and transmitting measles to others. Likewise, your vaccinated children can and do carry and transmit the diseases they are vaccinated against to others.

                So tell me again, why should I vaccinate my child or myself?

            • Alex says:

              Thumbs up for this comment! What are parents of immunised children worried about – if immunisation works?
              The bigger worry is the brainwashed (and I mean this in no way derogative) masses that just believe anything a person dressed in a white coat tells them.
              Pharmaceutical companies are in the business to make money (have an obligation to share holders as they say) and unfortunately if your health gets in the way, your health loses.

            • Not Happy What Vaccination Can Do says:

              I for one can prove what vaccination can do to a child. I have 2 older children that was vaccinated and the medical problems they suffered from it – from childbirth till they attended school. The hospital was more our home. I stopped them immunised when they started high school since then no problem. My younger 2 I decided not to vaccinate them and have had no problem. They attended day chicken pox and measles broke out my 2 were told to stay home. Surprisingly 95% of the children vaccinated at the school caught it, other 5% feeling sick, my 2 was much more healthier. I have seen a lot of difference between what the older 2 went through and what the younger 2 are going through because of my better decision. So do not go blaming the likes of us who chooses not to vaccinate our children that nearly caused the death of your newborn child…because vaccination nearly caused me the lives of my 2 newborn child.

          • Wellread says:

            Meryldory….
            exactly! Thanks

        • jet says:

          If your child is vacinated ask yourself why are the still catching what they are immunized against? Doesnt take a doctor to figure out jabs dont work just hurt!!

        • Jackie says:

          It is a known fact that toxins damage the immune system and these vacs are loaded with toxins and going straight into the blood stream bypassing the natural system that the body uses to break them down and build immunity to, and yet after the vacs the body is required to use its imune system to break down the vac but instead the body cannot! And children don’t even have the imune system that an adult on a healthy diet and lifestyle has.

        • goldilockes says:

          Emm…why was a ‘newborn’ at creche anyway? And why would you leave your child somewhere that they allow children with coughs and colds and of an older ages in the same area newborns? My son had whooping cough and the cough wasnt fully gone for 3 months. So I can sympathise. It’s awhful to watch…but he caught it off a supposedly vaccinated child who had been to the docs in contagious stage 3 times ,yet docs refuse to acknowledge whooping cough which meant the mother didn’t think she had to keep her child quarantined. My son wasn’t vaccinated, hers was…they both had it and both were very sick.

          • Alex says:

            This is true. Vaccinated children pose a higher risk since they are “unidentified carriers”. They can carry the disease without showing the symptoms – and this is well known to doctors. Whereas kids that show the symptoms can be isolated and the threat averted.

        • Farrah says:

          Mate if your kids Are in fact immunised well then what in gods name are you worried about??? Have a think about it!!! And are you so stupid to beleive that for a second the huge billion dollar pharmaceutical companies give a rats about you, your children or anyone else….they only care about the money, the power and the scare mongering. Do your research before you loose your cool and know what you are talking about. If anyones an idiot here it is you for not wanting to know and understand What exactly you are happily having injected into your tiny babies body’s! !!!

        • Marcus says:

          Isnt it amazing with the long list of toxins we put in the children THIS GENERATION IS BY FAR THE SICKEST , THESE VACCINATIONS ARE THE DOWNFALL OF MANKIND. To you will kill alot of prople- Have you read all the ingredients they put into the vaccines and looked up what is long term effect it can have on your child. Its the vaccinated that spread it to the unvaccinated . YOU TRULY MUST OPEN YOUR MIND.

        • Common Sense says:

          Someone who does not have whooping cough cannot give someone else or your baby whooping cough. Someone who IS already infected with it by having been vaccinated against it can spread the virus injected when they cough or sneeze. They are the ones who would have infected your child. Not an unvaccinated child who had never come into contact with whooping cough. Plus, whooping cough is more likely to be caught by a newborn infant by people in charge of the child’s closest care – parents or grandparents, other family members, nursing staff. Seriously. Get a grip and calm yourself.

        • Real life says:

          How would you feel if you were “innocently” giving your 3 yr old child a Whooping cough/Diptheria vaccine, then they stopped talking, became Autistic and developed an immune disorder so severe that they cannot come into contact with preservatives, food and clothes all need to be organic and they need full time care (True story). I think it would give you and those around you good reason not to vaccinate.
          So get off your high horse and let people have a choice.

          • AVN admin says:

            The problem is that the anti-choice brigade don’t care about your child. They are coming from a place of extreme fear. They’ve vaccinated their own children because they’ve been told vaccinating will protect them. But they’ve also been told that it will only protect them if everyone around them is vaccinated. Fear makes you incapable of logical thought or they would see what a lie this has to be. So they want you to vaccinte your child – even if vaccines will kill or maim them – so they can feel confident that their child’s vaccine will work. I kid you not.

        • Jade says:

          I know this is an old comment but I cant help myself! If vaccines worl so well than why did your child get sick to the point of almost dying? Vaccines lower the bodies immunity. I truely feel sorry for you and your child.

          Peace.

        • tori says:

          Love what you said i will never get my girl done ever ,since i really do believed vaccinations causing disabilities in children and the leading cause of autism.

      • Sherry Newby says:

        i would just like to say something to non vaccinators here, immunisations are ‘supposed’ to mean your ‘immune’ to these diseases so why do you’s stress and carry on? people who do not vaccinate READ their facts and study up on it doctors are not always right… they get paid per vaccine… they do not care about our health they care about the money their going to get from it. for instance when you go to the doctor they hand you pills that are not very good for you… there are plenty of natural remedies to use how do you think the older generation got by in life plus they didn’t have half of these diseases which are from vaccines… plus vaccines have pig DNA in them which is very similar to human and then the human DNA then attacks its own DNA cause it thinks its the pig DNA but its all part of the governments plan to kill off some of the population, thats why there is so many chemicals in our products we eat and use everyday… our bodys are not meant to handle all this crap they give us. any way research your facts and everyone has a choice at the end of the day, mine is the health of my family 😀 have a good day guys.

    • Lorraine says:

      Get off your high horse mate, much information on the net is legitamite too and we do read books and cross reference information. If your child was vaccine damaged would you be so judgmental,
      pissed off mother of 3

    • Chris says:

      You’ve just bought into the immunisation mantra without fully understanding that no chemical cocktail can guarantee the prevention of disease. Maybe your doctor won’t inform you of this, but immunised children carry a risk of developing the disease anyway. Immunisations don’t come with a guarantee, in fact, if you ask your doctor to read the fine-print on the prescriptions they’re injecting into your child – there will be a long line of “out-clauses” for the pharmacutical companies.

      If you were actually more honest with your own choices, you might see where your anger originates. You’ve been taught to believe non-vacination is the enemy – without knowing the real limitations of vaccinations. Its a myth that we can out-match nature in the laboratory. We’re talking billions of years of evolution against how many years of the science of vaccinations?

      We are hurting the human organism in the process though, and the government is funding that particular mutation with taxation they collect on behalf of us all.

      • Kate says:

        No, we do understand that vaccines don’t completely cover us from catching those diseases. But we also understand that if we immunize our children, they are more likely not to catch something than if we split the difference and didn’t vaccinate.

        That’s why we’re so angry with people who advocate anti-vaccination. Because we know that their children are completely vulnerable to every disease and have a much higher chance of catching something serious.

        We don’t want vaccinated and un-vaccinated children mixing germs because that increases the vaccinated children’s chances of catching a nasty – and potentially deadly – disease.

        • AVN admin says:

          I understand what you are saying. I have heard it many times before. The only thing I have never seen is one shred of evidence that the unvaccinated are more likely to either contract or transmit infectious diseases. Can you please provide me with such evidence?

        • Alex says:

          Hi Kate, sorry to disagree but your statement is simply not true, not even a fact. Whooping cough and other diseases were on the decline long before vaccination even came onto the plan.
          Essential the controversy we have is not between vaccination and non-vaccination. The problem lies in interest groups. Pharmaceutical companies have an adamant interest in profit – not your health. Sorry but it would be naïve to believe that.
          There have been good things coming from scientific research e.g. penicillin but many of the presented evidence is only part fact. They would not go as far as lying as this would be uncovered very quickly but they withhold the whole evidence of the matter to state their case.
          Looking at it, just by unaltered statistics, vaccination is more harmful than beneficial. What their big trump card is, is painting a picture of a big, bad world out there.
          Please, have a look at the website and the collected comments from a few authors. I am not trying to change your mind but at least be objective and not just emotion driven.
          http://public.thinkmoreraw.com/the-truth-about-meat

        • Janelle says:

          There are no double blind placebo studies to back up your point. It’s speculative. Is an unvaccinated child or adult more likely to contract a contagious disease? Maybe? Are 2 fully vaccinated children, 1 healthy and vibrant the other under weight with a poor diet likely to contact a disease with the same severity? Unlikely. If a child has a bad cough. I don’t care if they have had no vaccines or 20 vaccines. Keep them home!! Be responsible for the spread of illnesses in school and day care. Just because a child is fully up to date with their vaccines doesn’t mean you can send them to day care coughing germs over everyone.

    • A says:

      If you child is soooo protected by your vaccinations- full of alluminium and mercury by the way- then why are u worry he will get something. Dont u trust your vaccinations?

    • MAT. says:

      I totally respect your right to; or not to. As I accept that!, along with many other gifts; one of the first gifts that our history book tells us about is that very beautiful gift from God as mentioned in the early pages as the “gift of Free Will” that God so graciously gave to us. This is the same Free Will that people use when they choose to “war” instead of “Love”! …to”fear” and not “trust”!
      …to accept “God/Jesus as their Savior” or “Not”.
      As your right to express your view is respected along with others; I choose to follow the best living example of a Mentor we have ever been given, accepting with Him the extra Power of “His Spirit” which more than compensates for the imperfections in man’s attempts to translate original manuscripts that while a very good and worthwhile addition to live by will always be left (only) a little questionable in that it has been translated by “man”. …which does by the way note an exclusion for the need to be taught by any man.!!!
      One other question that is for all, …Why is it through our history that as smart as the human race has become we continue to wreck the world we live in; with a greater love for the material world than we really have for each other. …to the excemption of a very minor percentage.
      I have not found any answers, but I have allowed through my free will to accept Him with the answers …into my life!
      I totally respect your right to, or not to. …that Gift was also given to you!
      Free, but not unconditional…

    • Laz says:

      Obviously you have not done your research. Vaccines have fillers like mercury and glyphosates that lead to all kinds of health complications like autism and sterility. Yes, you should be pissed off, but not till you’ve heard the entire story.

    • Wellread says:

      I would rather my child get measles, mumps and polio than autism and I am no moron.
      Namaste xx

  10. unbelievable says:

    your concientious exemption link does notwork
    http://www.humanservices.gov.au/health-professionals/forms/immu12
    this does

    also could you please provide a link for me to find a government website that shows my rights to unvacc and still be entitled to family tax benefit part A including child care payments?? thankyou so much

  11. Jodie says:

    I’m new here and I only partially vaccinate my kids but I wished that I didn’t vaccinate at all especially after having 3 boys diagnosed with ASD within a year of each other but I will never vaccinate ever again from this point on. Regarding the CO forms my doctor is understanding so I didn’t have a problem getting signed.

    • Just saying says:

      You make Asperger’s syndrome sound like a horrible disease that destroys lives. It actually isn’t that bad. Also, there is no proof (besides on pseudo-science websites, which is called pseudo for a reason) that vaccines cause anything on the autistic spectrum.

      • Just saying says:

        They only cause a fear of needles

      • The truth is there if you want it. says:

        What you are saying is untrue. There are many reports that show the connection with measles vaccination and Autism. And it is a big deal that healthy children born developing perfectly well are immunized and sometimes not even months later are displaying classic autistic behaviour. Causing social, behavioural and learning impediments. If you research on the CDC health site or Pubmed site you can read adverse effects of vaccines. From all the reports I have read HPV and MMR are the biggest cases with the flu vaccine coming in a close second. Also if vaccination was so good why does the AMERICAN GOVT have a VACINATION COURT. GOOGLE it and see for yourself. So many victims and families are swept under the rug. Google GSK case. They are using people in third world countries as guinea pigs and many are dying. Its not in the media in our side of the world but it is in the Buenos Aires Hearald where it happened. look up GlaxoSmithKline fined over drug trial in Buenos Aires. Please read and see for yourself.

      • Nay says:

        HOW DARE YOU! Not that bad? EDUCATE YOURSELF FOR GOD’S SAKE. I am more worried about uneducated opinionated fools such as yourself than i am of the unimmunised. You should be ashamed of yourself. Did you know that with some immunisations (those with live disease) newly immunised people are CARRIERS for WEEKS afterwards and are supposed to isolate themselves? How many do you think actually do that? Newly immunised (infected) are FAR MORE LIKELY to spread the disease than the non-immunised who remain untainted and it is the immunised who are a risk to non-immunised not the other way around! Did you know that they stopped giving parents pamphlets showing potential side effects to improve compliance?????? Did you know that Malcolm Turnbull is a major shareholder and his wife is CEO of the major pharmaceutical company that produces our toxin riddled vaccines? How convenient that the Liberal Government should bring in laws to ensure their sales thrive – laws which ONLY affect low income families. Did you know that these laws do not permit exemption even to those who have suffered previous immunisation injury ( brain damage, paralysis etc). Did you know that the flu vaccine can cause life long paralysis? Did you know the guardasil vaccine caused many cases of brain damage and even death? Do you know what life is like for the children/adults with ASD (which by the way stands for Autism Spectrum Disorder NOT Aspergers – Aspergers is on the ASD spectrum). I’m guessing NO! Get your facts straight PLEASE. Unfortunately most uneducated people will never believe the damage immunisation can do until it affects them. Believe what you will, remain uneducated if you wish,but DO NOT disregard the injustice imposed on many children and adults at the hands of immunisation and PRAY that you never have to find out for yourself. Also research ASD while you at it, and when truth is finally told REMEMBER your disregard and ignorance towards all who have suffered at the hands of toxic immunisations.

  12. Charlie says:

    I am looking for a way to have an exemption with the new laws coming into place in jan 2016. Or will I have to forgo any tax benifits? I am not apart of a religious group.

    • Liz says:

      I’m wondering what we can do about this too!! The new laws are ridiculous. Personally we don’t get any tax benefits anyway as we earn too much, but I want information to pass on to friends and family who will now miss out because of these laws.

  13. Worried says:

    Hi will this page be updated with new information i am really worried and dont know what will happen to me and my son if our payments are cut.

    • Greg Beattie says:

      Yes, our small group of volunteers is out there working hard to make sure that information is kept up on a regular basis. I also encourage you to visit the Facebook page that is run by a group of people who support this organisation. You can find it at this link – https://www.facebook.com/avn.living.wisdom

      You might also like to consider joining the AVN as we need all the support we can get!

  14. Dee says:

    Ok we need to come together and support the future rights and health of our children, I do not TRUST what goes into the cocktail of these vaccinations and to be forcing our entire hum.an population to take these risks or else, is the scariest integration into our society in decades, WHERE will it go from here ! I am very , very concerned about our rights ! PLEASE, thee should be immediate support and comment on the forum after these announcements and we should be getting lawyers to protect our freedom of choice rights ! We do not have enough evidence as to WHAT these vaccinations are doing to so, so many of our children to force this DRUG onto them , when natural sources with a strong immune supportive diet protects them AS it has done for hundreds of thousands of years ! This is a Human Rights Issue ! It feels like we are no longer in the lucky country ! I am so heart broken with where we are heading ! Lets stand together for our legal rights and prove that our children are healthy and well !

    • Just saying says:

      I am assuming you don’t take sleeping pills, or blood pressure medicine then because those also contain worse poisons than vaccines.

      • Nay says:

        These are INGESTED – your bodies prime defence against toxins is the digestive system – bypassing that defence by injection is one of the biggest problems with immunisation…. you clearly have not researched at all and are merely regurgitating that which mainstream media has fed you. The sad part is there are so many like you – quick to vilify despite the fact you have not one iota of true knowlege on the matter. You will never out-argue those who have been victim to the injustice. It is their reality, it’s merely a debate topic for you. SMH. We can only hope that they produce an immunisation for ignorance, but that would never happen, the Gov’t rely on it too much to eradicate it.

  15. Chris says:

    If we thought the auto-immune disease statistics were on the rise, watch them smash through the ceiling with the new govt policy of forced immunisations in 2016. Shooting poison into defenceless babies, by threatening poverty to parents in a democracy who don’t comply.

    • Steve says:

      I am interested to know if this new gov policy is constitutional. As a family, the manner in which this impacts on our hip pocket is MAJOR. I think it is vital we look for the solution and not focus on the problem. Let’s get behind AVN.

      • meryldorey says:

        Steve – we want to know that and will be seeking the advice of a constitutional lawyer to get the answer. We are actively seeking legal advice and help to stop the government from instituting these draconian measures and we are asking for everyone’s help to ensure that our rights are maintained and yes – strengthened. It is shameful that a country purporting to be a democracy can even consider such an action! If you are in a position to help by making a pledge, that would be great. And I really hope you have called and / or written to the three names listed on this page – http://avn.org.au/2015/04/urgent-action-alert-please-do-this-now/

        The AVN is your voice but we need that voice to be strong! Please join in to help us help you.

        • Lou Coppola says:

          I’ve this day written this letter to the Herald Sun and The Australian newspaper. It is unlikely to be printed, however I thought its content may be useful to share in this forum.

          As Federal Health Minister in 2006, Tony Abbott was interviewed regarding cervical cancer vaccine, Gardasil.

          He stated, ‘I won’t be rushing out to get my daughters vaccinated, maybe that’s because I’m a cruel, callow, callous, heartless bastard but, look, I won’t be’.

          What does Mr Abbott know about vaccines that we haven’t been told? Are all other politicians and their families fully vaccinated? Will they forego benefits if they’re not?

          ‘No jab, no pay’ is a policy endorsed by the Federal Government. As such, all government members should lead the way and immediately release full details of their personal, and family vaccination status.

          Any refusal to do so, would eliminate any shred of credibility the policy may have.

        • Nick Farrow says:

          The latest announcement by the Government and supported by the Opposition is truly appalling. For those of you who want to know why this proposed law is unconstitutional, refer to Section 51 of the Australian Constitution which outlines the powers of the Federal Government, including as follows:

          Part (xxiiiA) the provision of maternity allowances, widows’ pensions, child endowment, unemployment, pharmaceutical, sickness and hospital benefits, medical and dental services (but not so as to authorize any form of civil conscription), benefits to students and family allowances;

          Very explicitly the Government has responsibility for family allowances and for the provision of medical and dental services, however our founding fathers had enough wisdom to specifically prevent the CONSCRIPTION of these medical and dental services IN ANY FORM.

          It is the existence of this clause that has until now guaranteed our right to Conscientious Objection on the matter of vaccination. This is also why it is so appalling that the government has chosen to ignore this right of all Australians.

          If the proposed laws are passed, the matter can only be resolved in two ways:

          1) Conscientious Objectors take the Government to the High Court on the grounds that their rights are being infringed as they are being Conscripted by the Goverment to a medical service via financial penalties that would not apply to other Australians who had volunteered to receive that medical service; or

          2) the Australian people pass a Referendum changing the Constitution to allow the Government to Conscript the population into medical services.

          While it is only a very small percentage of the population that object to vaccinations, I am sure it would not be possible to pass a change to enable the Conscription of ANY medical service. To give but a single example, under this scenario, the government could force obese individuals to undergo lap band surgery. With 60% of our population overweight or obese, such a change to the Constitution would never pass.

          Such an example could easily apply to any medical condition.

          I believe the Government has taken this populist action in the expectation that “small” groups such as the AVN would not take the kind of action required to test this clause of the Constitution in the High Court. (The High Court is the only place to test Constitutional matters.)

          The question then is: Can we do this? Perhaps a few viewings of The Castle might be in order!

          • Tay says:

            Amen! Finally someone else who knows what they’re talking about and up against. Two thumbs up 🙂

          • Savitri says:

            There are a number of ways that the new legislation is unlawful. For example Common Law rights. my Common Law right to informed consent :

            This is an excerpt from Australian Government State and Territory legislation. Review of State and Territory Legislation https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/10-review-state-and-territory-legislation/informed-consent-medical-treatment

            10.47 At common law, all competent adults can consent to and refuse medical treatment. If consent is not established, there may be legal consequences for health professionals. Under the law of trespass, patients have a right not be subjected to an invasive procedure without consent or other lawful justification, such as an emergency or necessity. At the international level, the CRPD expresses this in terms of a ‘right to respect for his or her physical and mental integrity on an equal basis with others’

            10.48 ‘Informed consent’ refers to consent to medical treatment and the requirement to warn of material risk prior to treatment. As part of their duty of care, health professionals must provide such information as is necessary for the patient to give consent to treatment, including information on all material risks of the proposed treatment. Failure to do so may lead to civil liability for an adverse outcome, even if the treatment itself was not negligent.

            3.1.2 Who can consent for a child or young person? https://www.health.qld.gov.au/consent/documents/ic-guide.pdf

            Parents : Each parent has full parental responsibility for a child or young person unless this is altered by a court order.

          • Savitri says:

            5. Informed consent : Immunisation Handbook ; an Australian government publication; http://www.immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/Handbook10-home~handbook10part2~handbook10-2-1

            2.1.3 Valid consent

            Valid consent can be defined as the voluntary agreement by an individual to a proposed procedure, given after sufficient, appropriate and reliable information about the procedure, including the potential risks and benefits, has been conveyed to that individual. As part of the consent procedure, persons to be vaccinated and/or their parents/carers should be given sufficient information (preferably written) on the risks and benefits of each vaccine, including what adverse events are possible, how common they are and what they should do about them.

            For consent to be legally valid, the following elements must be present:

            1.It must be given by a person with legal capacity, and of sufficient intellectual capacity to understand the implications of being vaccinated.

            2.It must be given voluntarily in the absence of undue pressure, coercion or manipulation.

            3.It must cover the specific procedure that is to be performed.

            4.It can only be given after the potential risks and benefits of the relevant vaccine, risks of not having it and any alternative options have been explained to the individual.

            The individual must have sufficient opportunity to seek further details or explanations about the vaccine(s) and/or its administration..

            Consent should be obtained before each vaccination, once it has been established that there are no medical condition(s) that contraindicate vaccination. Consent can be verbal or written. Immunisation providers should refer to their state or territory’s policies on obtaining written consent

            .1.2 Who can consent for a child or young person? https://www.health.qld.gov.au/consent/documents/ic-guide.pdf

            Parents : Each parent has full parental responsibility for a child or young person unless this is altered by a court order.

            Consent on behalf of a child or adolescent

            In general, a parent or legal guardian of a child has the authority to consent to vaccination of that child;. A child in this context is defined as being under the age of 18 years in Tasmania, Victoria and Western Australia; under the age of 14 years in New South Wales; and under the age of 16 years in the Australian Capital Territory, South Australia and the Northern Territory. Queensland follows common law principles.(See Below)

            For certain procedures, including vaccination, persons younger than the ages defined above may have sufficient maturity to understand the proposed procedure and the risks and benefits associated with it, and thus may have the capacity to consent under certain circumstances. Refer to the relevant state or territory immunisation service provider guidelines for more information.

            Should a child or adolescent refuse a vaccination for which a parent/guardian has given consent, the child/adolescent’s wishes should be respected and the parent/guardian informed.

            Evidence of consent

            http://www.immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/Handbook10-home~handbook10part2~handbook10-2-1

            General practice or public immunisation clinics

            Consent may be given either in writing or verbally, according to the protocols of the health facility, but it must meet the criteria for valid consent. Evidence of verbal consent should be documented in the clinical records. If a standard procedure is routinely followed in a practice or clinic, then a stamp, a sticker or a provider’s signature indicating that the routine procedure has been followed may be used. For paperless medical records, a typed record of verbal consent may be made in the patient’s file, or a copy of written consent scanned into the file.

            Explicit verbal consent is required before administration of any vaccine, even when written consent has been given at previous vaccination encounters for the same vaccine. Verbal consent should be documented in the patient’s file each time it is given.

          • Alex says:

            To be honest this is only a prelude to what is to come. A pre-stage if you like to test how far they can go. The government already overruled the local councils in numerous occasions on the issue of adding fluoride to the water (this is not a healthy fluoride but a heavy industry waste product)where the local councils objected but were overruled – unconstitutional but no one puts up a fight – WHY NOT?

  16. J D says:

    So what’s the status now? The link http://immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/faq-related-payments no longer works.

    I don’t have any beef with vaccinations but I do believe that everyone has a right to decide whether or not to undergo a medical procedure.

    J

  17. jessica says:

    Here is the new link: http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/subjects/immunising-your-children#a4

    Now they are saying you have to immunise to receive a payment.

    What people need to realise is that the government work for the general public and if this is not wanted by all it is not allowed. Everyone has a right to decide what is going to be injected into themselves or their children.

    Even if the government made a law saying it had to be done no one has to follow that law. It would be the same as the government creating a law saying you can only take 4 breaths a day.

    If there was a real process in place that looked after all the kids that have life long disabilities caused by some of these vaccinations then more people would be interested in it. However there is no to very little support. This doesn’t make any sense as the general public are paying money (tax revenue) to the companies making these vaccinations. And the courts say YOU have to prove the damage was caused by the vaccination.

    So what they are saying is the person paying for this, the person that only wants the best for their child has to go up against a multi billion dollar industry before you are entailed to any form of compensation to help pay for the support and medical bills of your child that has been harmed by the vaccination.

    What is legal and what is illegal is what the general public say, not the government. They are just there to keep order and retain the general public’s best interest.

    However, when was the last time they did this? Australia said no to carbon tax and they do it anyway.

    If the government want vaccination to be a legal requirement there is no way they can do it because everyone has a right to look after themselves and decide how they live their life.

  18. Emily says:

    How dare you read this page and actually consider not vaccinating your child for any reason other than a proven medical condition! Every child has the right to be immunised against illnesses that could be life-threatening to not only the child but every other person they come into contact with. It does not matter that some of these illnesses have not been seen in Australia for decades, what does matter is that the diseases killed many people before your time. These diseases have not been seen in Australia for as long as they have because parents have agreed with scientists (including those from the World Health Organisation) and those who ‘conscientiously object’ have been protected by herd immunity. If the number of people who object to vaccinating their child increases, the ‘herd’ will no longer be protected and your children will not be safe. How would you feel if your daughter contracted rubella because you as a parent ‘conscientiously objected’ to vaccinating them as child. If they were exposed to Rubella during pregnancy, about nine in every ten unborn babies exposed to rubella during the first 10 weeks of pregnancy will have a major congenital abnormality. Birth defects associated with CRS include: deafness, blindness, heart defects, intellectual disability, impaired growth and inflammation of various organs such as the brain, liver or lungs. So in the end, you are harming your grandchildren’s lives and their chance at having a life.
    Please vaccinate your children because in the end, by vaccinating them you are promising them a future free from dilapidating diseases.

    Please read:
    http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/globalsummary/countries?countrycriteria%5Bcountry%5D%5B%5D=AUS

    • meryldorey says:

      Emily – I had to read your comment twice because I thought it was satire. Surely nobody could be that naive? Please do your research from independent sources as well as the WHO – they are not THE authority on this issue.

    • Liz says:

      My son has a rare immunological illness that is not found until the age of 3/4 in 90% of cases. Vaccinations kill these children. The only ones who survive are the other born to parents like myself who choose not to vaccinate. How dare you say my child’s death is worth it.

    • Jo says:

      TDaP Vaccine Insert PAGE 11 – adverse reactions include AUTISM, SIDS, Anaphylactic, Grand Mal Seizures (brain damage) etc – this is available for you to read online even through CDC or FDA websites and is straight from the pharmaceutical company so available there too – have a look at the CDC scandals of corruption the same people pushing the vaccines to the register are working for and have vested interest $$$ for them being added (some made tidy sums of tens of millions of dollars in shares, also employed by pharmaceutical companies). Whistleblowers have come forth and are giving evidence of falsified studIes and omitting evidence. Not to mention 70% of media / press income not in election time is from pharmaceutical companies and in Australia our very own media mogul sits on their board for pharmaceutical company and stands to receive $$$ for vaccine propaganda (no jab no pay no jab no play) and our GP’s get a $$$ per quota they vaccinate (paid by pharmaceutical companies) they also don’t research for themselves as it is on the register so it’s approved and any doctor who does look and changes sides stands to lose registration and $$$, if you tried a little research / reading maybe you would change your biased brainwashed opinion which throw around like you’ve actually read anything (go to a library, read neuroscience on Mercury, Aluminium and read unadulterated medical studies not just ones given to push vaccination registration agendas by people on payroll – maybe you would like to gamble with the physical, mental health of your children but we are not interested and some of us have viewed both sides because we wanted to educate ourselves before going in blindly and not just listen to the one side. Those who have went in blind and then had a child injured or killed are forever regretful and wished they had educated themselves to make an informed decision for their child.

  19. Alchemy says:

    Actually Emily….can you check the Australian whooping cough data and incidence statistics for the last 10 years….? It’s worth a look.

    • Alex says:

      Check the last 100 years and find that diseases like whooping cough were already way down before vaccination came into play. All by better nutrition and hygiene.

  20. Carol says:

    Hi I’m wondering what happens for 2016, if your child is not vaccinated at all does that mean you can’t get into school or day care at all? I heard the objection form does not matter any more and the only way is if you have a medical reason ? Thank you

    • Confused says:

      Im just trying to bump this query as I have been told the same thing and Im looking for an answer also. Can anyone please help? There is so much confusion out there!

      • katie says:

        It’s only a $700 supplement you won’t be paid at the end of fty. Not the whole payment. I haven’t had my children vaccinated for the last 4yrs without a consent form signed and I haven’t stopped being paid. Just don’t receive the supplement which doesn’t matter to me.

        • AVN admin says:

          Unfortunately, this is not true. It is the end of year supplement (and that $700 means a whole lot to many low-income families who are the ones being targeted by this draconian legislation) plus all childcare rebates which can amount to nearly $14,000 per year per child. THAT would mean a lot to almost every family, I think.

          • Felicity says:

            What about ftb a in relation to gardasil? I have been doing alot of research and have found there is just not enough evidence about long term affects of this drug and it was not tested on children. If it was given to a 13 yr old today, hpv is most common in 20 – 25 yr olds and if it becomes cancerous can take 10 yrs to be detected as cancer. Essentially we cant know if it has worked at all until those children are 35. (22 yrs from now ). What if it has devastating side effects to pregnancy and overall cervical health etc. Plus it only covers 4 of nearly 100 strains. Is this ppat of the no jab no play?

          • Kaliana Rose says:

            Can you please assist me, my daughter has been told by Centrelink that if she doesn’t begin and continue with the vaccination timetable beginning at 6 weeks…. if she delays the vaccination program till her daughter is older that she will not be able to enter the vaccination program at a later date and therefore will not receive child care subsidies for the next 5 years till her daughter starts school. I am so concerned that many parents are being bullied into the vaccination program due to mothers needing to work to cover mortgage repayments. I would appreciate any information on this please.

  21. Maggie says:

    Hi there,
    I am just wondering if I need to sign another exempt form by the end of June this year to receive my last supplement payment or do you only need to sign that form as a once off thing ??

    • Christine says:

      I believe it’s only a one off thing. And my daycare provider told me that we’ll just have to wait to see if the no jab no pay policy become law.

  22. Astrid says:

    I just found out my child will not be allowed to go to 4 year old kindergarten next year due to the recently passed bill in victoria. I am devastated – how can my child be refused her basic human right to education because i – her parent have chosen not to vaccinate her? is this not an abuse of her human rights? Is this not coercion at its worst? Please advise what i can do? is there a legal case for this? This is getting beyond sick.

    • Liz says:

      The legal requirements of consent for vaccination are specified in the government’s own
      Australian Immunisation Handbook:
      “2.1.3 Valid consent
      For consent to be legally valid, the following elements must be present:
      • It must be given by a person with legal capacity, and of sufficient intellectual capacity to
      understand the implications of being vaccinated.
      • It must be given voluntarily in the absence of undue pressure, coercion or
      manipulation.
      • It must cover the specific procedure that is to be performed.

      I would say you have a legal case here because how can you give consent?? If banning your child from daycare isnt pressure, coercion or manipulation I don’t know what is.

    • Anna says:

      According the victorian government website, confirmed places for 2016 kindergarteners can still attend. You need to have it in writing before the legislation comes into effect, so I recommend you enrol your child ASAP.
      http://www.health.vic.gov.au/immunisation/factsheets/no-jab-no-play.htm

    • Christine says:

      I feel for you Astrid. I didnt know schoold entry would be affected by the law. That’s a shame! I bought a pack of homeopathy immnunisation(homoeoprophylaxis) from Isaac Golden and i give it to my boys. I was lucky that the person who interviewed us at the school is a strong believer in homeopathy.
      Try look for another school who wouldn’t judge your child’s immunisation status.
      Both of my boys are not immunised and attend day care and eldest is attending kindy next year.

    • Nay says:

      I was told directly by my daughter’s kindergarten last year and her school this year that they CANNOT exclude unimmunised children however they need to know for the purpose of excluding the child for their own safety IF the disease occurs in the school.

  23. Khanh says:

    Can some one pls comment on the NO JAB NO PAY policy ? Also can someone point me to a section in the Australia constitution relates to this issue ? I was born and grow up in Viet Nam. I’ve seen all short of deceases. As you may not know, I didn’t received this much vaccines either. I’m more concern about the human embryo (WI-38 and MCR 5) in the vaccines …

  24. Go Natural says:

    My baby’s due in Feb and I’m just starting to think about access to daycare. I’m not so worried about not receiving the CCB or CCR benefits (it’s not enough to make me rethink my stance on immunisation). However I’m more concerned about being blocked from daycare. Has anyone been rejected because their child isn’t immunised?

  25. unbelievable says:

    why is there no more activity on this page .. we need answers

  26. Nunz says:

    Sooo… They’ve just passed the “no jab,no pay” in parliament today… I haven’t vaxed 4, 2 yr old and 7 month old… I’ve already been cut some of my payments because I’m not “up to date” with the vaxes, and now what? Can some one help me! 😬

    Confused mother of 5

  27. Renee says:

    Apparently we will be loosing all FTB is this true? Lowest form on manipulation… so so wrong.
    Are we still able to fight? What can we do?

    • AVN admin says:

      No, parents who do not follow the entire government vaccination schedule without an approved medical exemption will be losing all government childcare subsidies and the end of year Family Tax Benefit Part A SUPPLEMENT which is just over $700 (the supplement, that is). You will still be eligible for your fortnightly Family Tax Benefit. More information about this will be uploaded to the website shortly.

      • Liz says:

        What can we do?!? I can’t afford kindy for my 4y/o and I will NOT immunise. I don’t want to disadvantage him, but my youngest is able to get an exemption as his b-cells are the wrong shape and he doesn’t produce immunoglobulins, I KNOW I saved his life not immunising him. Two immunologists have told me that. I won’t risk my other kids. Can we take them to court?? There must be something we can do?

        • AVN admin says:

          Yes, we can take them to court but we need everyone’s help to fund it! Please make a pledge if you can at the AVN’s pledge page and join the organisation here – https://avn.org.au/join/

          We must, indeed, all stand together or most assuredly, we will all hang separately, to quote Ben Franklin.

        • Karen McClure says:

          Let’s start by making one thing clear, I am not against immunisation, but please read my story and ask yourself if you were in my situation would you be immunising your 2nd and 3rd child.

          I had a beautiful, healthy 2 year old boy who was presenting normal by paediatricians and doctors. I had all his immunisations done including his MMR at age of 2. This was his last immunisation that he would ever have. He came out in massive welts all over his body with a very high temperature. When I phoned 2 Drs surgeries and advised the situation they said this sometimes happens, not to worry and put him in a cool bath and give him some panadol for the temperature.

          The next morning he woke up and has never been the same since. He stopped talking, laughing, singing. I could not even get eye contact with him. My beautiful baby boy had lost everything… 12 years later He has been in support units at school and struggles to fit into normal society as he is always looked at as different, even though people who meet him love him.

          Now I have two more toddlers who are again presenting as normal by paediatricians and Drs, would you immunise them??????

          As I said before, I am not against immunisation and I thought I was doing the right thing by my first child when I did immunise him, but unfortunately it was wrong for his make up.

          Now I am in the situation where I work full time and need to put my toddlers into preschool, but really I believe I will have to quit my job and be on benefits as I will not be paid any child care benefits or rebate.

          The government wants to encourage women back into the workforce, but I’m sorry to say you are making it unaffordable for me.

          If you where in my situation doctors out there would you take the risk and immunise my two toddlers???? Where is your humanistic side to understand this….. If you are out there and can help me please reply…..

          If I presented a legal document to a dr to say they can assure the immunisation will not harm my child, do you think they will sign it???? Or do you think they would sign the medical exemption form… Really they wouldn’t sign either would they… Because I believe that they really don’t know for sure….

          How many others are in my situation?????

          • Nay says:

            I am in tears reading this, it is heartbreaking! The same thing happened to my daughter. I struggle to forgive myself for the damage i have caused my child by blindly immunising her and feel so much anger that our kids are disregarded and their injustice denied. The truth WILL eventually be told, people like you and I will be the ones to tell it.

        • Karen says:

          Will your immunologist sign the medical exemption forms for you??

  28. maggie says:

    I am from soapnutsaustralia dot net, i am maggie.
    I have been thinking that i have to do the best for my child no matter what ugly policy is comming…. healthy life is the only thing i am focus on. i will look after my child by myself, until they go to school, if new ugly policy coming that they cant go to school anymore, i will teach them instead go to school being brain wash for nongood anyway. i have decided not to waste my energy to fight , the only freedom is to free myself from any attachments from goverment, so their policy become useless….. dear friends: when you have time ,you can read the following books, it might change your mindset for your life: you are your own master to live. 1. krishnamurti first and last freedom..2. marlo morgan . mutant message down under. good luck my dear frieds.live in a simple live and you have more and more freedom. do not ask freedom, become freedom yourself.
    maggie

  29. Maria Chacos says:

    Did I hear something about a new cure for cancer that has to reach bone marrow and the two main diseases that get to bone marrow are measles and HIV. If we’re all immunised against measles, I guess the cure is Aids.

  30. Nick Farrow says:

    Hi Tay.

    Thanks for the positive comment on my post.

    I made a detailed submission to the recent Senate Committee inquiry on a number of fronts, including this constitutional matter. On reviewing other submissions, at least one other person also raised it.

    Interestingly, while the Committee report commented on most of the objections raised, they completely ignored this Constitutional argument. It was either not considered or was considered and deliberately omitted from the Committee’s report to Parliament for their consideration. There are many ways to read this.

    As we now know, the Parliament has now passed this draconian legislation. Now it is law. The only way to protect our rights is unfortunately to have the law overturned in the High Court. To say the least, that is a daunting challenge with no certain outcome.

    The way for it to move forward will be to fund such a court challenge via crowdfunding via the parents of the 50,000 odd children who are registered conscientious objectors.

    I am up for it, however this will have to be a significant grassroots campaign. Anyone reading this post who would like to contribute in any way please make it be known.

    Nick.

    • EC says:

      Nick – planning to have kids in the next few years and significantly concerned. Let me know what support is needed.
      EC

  31. Michael says:

    What are we becoming. No offense but are we now a republic? I have immunised my first daughter who is no badly disabled, possibly to do with immunisation, now they are forcing me to immunise my youngest. What the heck is this?

  32. Dee says:

    Hi Nick and others, we are onto this via a campaign coming up nationally that you will hear about ! there will be ways to unite, contribute and stand up for our rights as a nation ! keep checking in here and in you ‘local’ papers, blessings, dee

  33. Melissa says:

    Hi I am a conscientious objector and I will be affected by the cuts to family tax benefit. I would like to help or contribute in some way. Can you please let me know how I can help?

  34. Jane says:

    Hi AVN. I think you need to update this part of your website now the “no jab, no pay, no play” law has come in.

    • AVN admin says:

      Thanks for the heads up Jane. The committee is reviewing all pages currently and will update accordingly if affected by No Jab No Pay/Play laws.

  35. Butler says:

    Please don’t give up. Forced drugging for any reason is a despicable act, and anyone trying to do this in the name of Government is committing treason on its people. Its not a question of whether these injections are good or bad, it’s just a question of whether or not we have a CHOICE.
    AVN and individual parents; please don’t let anyone weaken your resolve to stand up for your freedom of choice on this matter.
    We are being lied to, decieved and manipilated

    • Just Saying says:

      Just a question… If vaccines don’t work then how come smallpox is practically extinct? (Smallpox was the first disease that a vaccine was made for… in 1796)

      • Just Saying says:

        And this is still when people thought smoking and bleeding could cure diseases

        • AVN admin says:

          And now, a large number of doctors still believe that burning, cutting and poisoning people will make them healthy. Equally barbaric.

      • AVN admin says:

        It is very hard to have an intelligent discussion with you when you are coming from a position of ignorance. If you use smallpox as evidence of vaccine effectiveness, what happened to bubonic plague, typhoid fever, scarlet fever and all of the other diseases we have never vaccinated against but which have also disappeared? Why did deaths from measles decline by nearly 100% before the introduction of the measles vaccine? Why are there still very high levels of death from these same diseases in developing nations whose vaccination rates are currently approaching 100% compliance? Could it be that vaccination is not the reason for these declines but better hygiene, nutrition and living conditions are? Many doctors, environmental health experts and epidemiologists believe that to be the case. By all means, continue to believe as you wish, but providing evidence for this connection will make your case a whole lot stronger. Remember – correlation does not necessarily equal causation.

  36. Karen says:

    Let’s start by making one thing clear, I am not against immunisation, but please read my story and ask yourself if you were in my situation would you be immunising your 2nd and 3rd child.

    I had a beautiful, healthy 2 year old boy who was presenting normal by paediatricians and doctors. I had all his immunisations done including his MMR at age of 2. This was his last immunisation that he would ever have. He came out in massive welts all over his body with a very high temperature. When I phoned 2 Drs surgeries and advised the situation they said this sometimes happens, not to worry and put him in a cool bath and give him some panadol for the temperature.

    The next morning he woke up and has never been the same since. He stopped talking, laughing, singing. I could not even get eye contact with him. My beautiful baby boy had lost everything… 12 years later He has been in support units at school and struggles to fit into normal society as he is always looked at as different, even though people who meet him love him.

    Now I have two more toddlers who are again presenting as normal by paediatricians and Drs, would you immunise them??????

    As I said before, I am not against immunisation and I thought I was doing the right thing by my first child when I did immunise him, but unfortunately it was wrong for his make up.

    Now I am in the situation where I work full time and need to put my toddlers into preschool, but really I believe I will have to quit my job and be on benefits as I will not be paid any child care benefits or rebate.

    The government wants to encourage women back into the workforce, but I’m sorry to say you are making it unaffordable for me.

    If you where in my situation doctors out there would you take the risk and immunise my two toddlers???? Where is your humanistic side to understand this….. If you are out there and can help me please reply…..

    If I presented a legal document to a dr to say they can assure the immunisation will not harm my child, do you think they will sign it???? Or do you think they would sign the medical exemption form… Really they wouldn’t sign either would they… Because I believe that they really don’t know for sure….

    How many others are in my situation?????

    • Cat says:

      In the same situation. Single mum of 2

    • sara says:

      Same here, my son began a succession of seizures since immunization. 14 now, and hasn’t had any for 2 years. no way am I going to complete his immunization schedule.
      The thing that really pisses me off is that neither my husband myself or any of our 40yr old peers had any immunizations other than normal tetnus injection and WTF suddenly if you don’t immunise your children you are risking life on earth?

  37. Aimee says:

    Heres a link to the form you required to provide to medicare and centrelink
    The hard part it finding a Dr who will sign it,I went to a large number of Drs and was turned away,found one who completed it for me.
    Before posting it to centrelink and medicare make sure you take plenty of copies as the seem to get lost,funny that…
    I have posted,faxed and emailed to all departments and they are yet to receive them.

    Goodluck at all as you get treated like you’re satan :/

    https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nevdgp.org.au/info/immunisation/conscientious-objection-form.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwift4ry-JzLAhXFppQKHf4SAfsQFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNGGOXhyiedOt7Al-ttR0nSRwHMroA&sig2=cF_K7MswoLjzN7Iy_vMWow

  38. Jo says:

    So has there been any movement forward in getting around these new laws? My daughter is 8 months old, perfectly healthy and happy. Financially I’m going to have to return to work soon. Does this mean I will lose all the FTB each fortnight of $180 plus have to pay 100% of Childcare and forgo any rebate??? If centrelink wants me to return to work this is actually not an incentive. Should I just stay at home and cut costs as much as possible instead??? Please update this page to where we are at with this PLEASE!!!!

  39. Alex says:

    To all that are concerned. You will only miss out on the “End of the Year FTB A supplement”, not your fortnightly payments.
    Below is the link to the DSS. This is a legally binding statement for public information.
    https://www.dss.gov.au/our-responsibilities/families-and-children/benefits-payments/strengthening-immunisation-for-young-children
    The information on the Department for Human Services is wrong and to be honest vastly misleading (on purpose to get people to panic and vaccinate?)

  40. Alex says:

    BTW, there is also form that you can fill in to state that you kid(s) are naturally immune. This is going to be hard to prove one way or the other (for or against) but maybe worth a shot for those who would like to keep the one-off, end of the year supplement.

  41. Jo says:

    No the new law as of 1st January 2016 is loss of FTB Part A , CCB and CCR. FTB Part A for me is around $180pf and if I return to work CCB at 100% is $4.17 per hour your child is in childcare and remainder you pay and then CCR is 50% of your out of pocket cost of Childcare rebated back to you. Day care can range from $16-$20 plus per hour I hear so the potential loss financially is making returning to work not an option. No you will not lose parenting payment partnered (I’m married) however I don’t receive anything from this as my husband earns too much ($600pw must be a lot of money). So looks like I’ll be staying home or working hours opposite to my husband or getting him to stay home and I work in a better paying job. I will not have this government force me financially into injuring my child.

  42. Jo says:

    TDaP Vaccine Insert PAGE 11 – adverse reactions include AUTISM, SIDS, Anaphylactic, Grand Mal Seizures (brain damage) etc – this is available for you to read online even through CDC or FDA websites and is straight from the pharmaceutical company so available there too – have a look at the CDC scandals of corruption the same people pushing the vaccines to the register are working for and have vested interest $$$ for them being added (some made tidy sums of tens of millions of dollars in shares, also employed by pharmaceutical companies). Whistleblowers have come forth and are giving evidence of falsified studIes and omitting evidence. Not to mention 70% of media / press income not in election time is from pharmaceutical companies and in Australia our very own media mogul sits on their board for pharmaceutical company and stands to receive $$$ for vaccine propaganda (no jab no pay no jab no play) and our GP’s get a $$$ per quota they vaccinate (paid by pharmaceutical companies) they also don’t research for themselves as it is on the register so it’s approved and any doctor who does look and changes sides stands to lose registration and $$$, go to a library, read neuroscience on Mercury, Aluminium and read unadulterated medical studies not just ones given to push vaccination register agendas by people on payroll.

  43. Christine says:

    Thank you for advising it is not the fortnightly payments that will be affected. I refused to immunise my son – his father had undergone radiation treatment six months before our son was conceived and I truly believed that our boy’s immune system was not 100% however I am unsure about how to prove this when he is now 14 years old.
    Sure, his immune system is much better now and stronger but I am unsure if ANY GP will give him an exemption and I do not feel right about taking my son to be a human pin cushion for the sake of extra money in my pocket every fortnight. Let alone debating the concept of double think regarding the immunisation debate!

  44. Paul Martin says:

    The forced immunisation is akin to blackmail; its like saying if you don’t have GIO insurance on your car we will charge more for petrol!

  45. Genene Bates says:

    i believe the only real hope we have as people is our true common law, as taught by Karl Lentz.
    We, the people created government – their are OUR SERVANTS.
    The only way is to be a “man” and not a “person”.
    A “person” is a government slave, a corporate entity as was proven by Justice Michael Adams concluded a “fictional cartoon character is a “person” within the meaning of Commonwealth and NSW laws. http://machinegunkeyboard.com/?p=565

    And under a ‘person’ – we have NO rights… ONLY a “man” has rights.
    A “person” is under the legal system – a PRIVATE soceity for Corporate and Government affairs.
    Only by Common Law – and knowing our law of the land do we stand a real chance…A very, very good chance..without the big $$$ spent on legal fees – to put the people in Government who is harming man back in their place… please check out karl Lentz – man vs. government –
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaclHfXwKNI
    I’m learning but cannot learn fast enough and i require help from some intelligent people.

  46. David says:

    I’ve seen suggestions that people need to look at the sciences as to the benefits of vaccinations. Well here are some scientists and doctors that say otherwise. https://youtu.be/mTjvX6s2Jvk

  47. Jo says:

    Any updates?

  48. David Edwards says:

    My wife and I have six children which we will never immunize regardless of money or health statistics, money or no money. We have definite religious reasons for our decision. Regardless of the fact that health benefits from vaccine inoculation has still to be proven or dis-proven. However I find it amusing that people are so easily mislead by sneaky government methods used in the same fashion, time after time. Some time back we were offered the Australia card but the people rejected it. So the Government introduced a linked TFN and Drivers licence which is the same thing. The people loved it. Then they “Offered” us a photo ID on the Drivers Licence. Now it is compulsory. However this is still not enough for the government. They want to have a more streamlined control. They recently adopted the Mygov system in their efforts to combine all departmental information and sidestep privacy issues. the government isn’t combining the departments, you are. What you are also not seeing is that through child immunization the government is opening a legal door, a precedent to other actions, allow them to force a control system whilst saying they had the approval of the people. Firstly they have suggested immunization. Now they are demanding it for children. Next they will expand the demand to Adults. Soon after that, just like they are doing already in America, they will offer a medical digital implant for convenience sake, but later demand it. Way better than an Australia card. Wake up and see the future. It is all in the Bible.

  49. janet strauss says:

    With tears I have read all you beautiful peoples stories and mine is the same,my son is now autistic due to vaccinations,he was perfect before,I decided not too immunise my next two children ,now I will lose benefits for them,why should my children be descrimanates against because I refuse to take the risk of ending up with 3 autistic children.I work part time,I rely on those supplement payments they are used for my children’s education needs each year.I have heard all the so called experts say that there aren’t any side effects of vaccinations that it can’t be proven. Their is a risk of Autism,and of course these studies are funded ironically by pharmaceutical companies and surprise that they found in favour of the vaccinations.and pharmaceutical companies.As I and all the other parents who have experienced a perfect child,who now is permantly damaged by side effects due to vaccinations,know we are right,we all need to band together and legally try to do what we can for our vaccine effected children,and for the rights of us as parents not too have this happen to any of our other children.If you have been thru this you know the truth,keep fighting,stay strong and no in your heart you are right.

  50. Rachel says:

    A month ago I finally got around to doing my 2014/2015 . I was sure I would get the tax supplement as this was for the tax year before the changes. But no, I lose $3200. Not complaining as no amount of money could make me get so many vaccinations for my children but I am
    Surprised as I had thought the change would start from the 2015/2016 financial year.

  51. Soraya says:

    According to the Immunise Australia Program, (as at December 2015) there were 30.092 recorded vaccination conscientious objections in Australia and 6.441 in Victoria. These people should continue to have a CHOICE if this country should continue have a ‘Democratic Government’. This is really a matter of protecting the parents right to choose (or not) a medical treatment for their children without being harassed with social benefits denial or punished by having their kids excluded from preschools.

    Hence, those who think it’s “OK” to give the state the right to forced vaccination are basically giving the government the power to choose medical treatments for their children – in their place. One day, they might wake up not being able to choose medical treatments for themselves neither if the “Representatives Of The People” continue to pa$$ those Unlawful and Unconstitutional federal/state laws like “No Jab, No Pay”/”No Jab, No Play”. Eventually, next would be “No Jab, No School”, “No Jab, No Social Security” and “No Jab, No Job”, perhaps? .

    Maybe those of us (who objects the vaccine scheme/scam) should start a class action together? Would that qualify? I see no other way since going alone to the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal based on the ‘Victorian Discrimination Law’ or claiming the ‘Equal Opportunity Act’ Protected Attributes (education access) at the Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission would probably bear no fruits – since in Australia, Human Rights are being explicitly ignored for so long (in so many other areas, like the immigration/refugee’s, etc.) that it wouldn’t make any difference but cost us lots of resource$, time and further drain our energies.

    We are being affected financially, socially, emotionally and having our children excluded from the (educational) SYSTEM – THAT WE ALSO PAY FOR with our taxes, like anyone else who consent to vaccines. So, to just complain in forums online won’t change a thing… or to wait for the “politicians” to do it on our behalf is really to be naive.

    What I’m asking here is for SOLUTIONS, maybe a legal solution while we wait for the “High Court Challenge” that might take years to come to an end… Meanwhile, what are we going to do? The state bill “No Jab No Play” affects thousands of citizens in Australia, specially in Victoria, hence, should be subject to a collective action – it seems. Thoughts on a LEGAL SOLUTION (maybe a CLASS ACTION?) would be much appreciated.

    Some inspiring quotes:

    “When we give government the power to make medical decisions for us, we, in essence, accept that the state owns our bodies.” – Ron Paul.

    “If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.” – Thomas Jefferson.

    “Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religions destroy spirituality.” – Dr. Michael Ellner.

    “In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” – George Orwell.

    “A Nation of Sheep will beget a Government of Wolves” – Old saying.

    “It takes a female to have a baby,
    It takes a woman to raise a child,
    It takes a mother to raise them correctly,
    It takes a warrior to show them how to change the world.”- Shannon L. Alder

    “Individual rights are not subject to a public vote; a majority has no right to vote away the rights of a minority; the political function of rights is precisely to protect minorities from oppression by majorities (and the smallest minority on earth is the individual).” – Ayn Rand.

  52. Soraya says:

    Vaccines and injections are NOT the best options for those who have researched the History of Vaccines. Furthermore, most who ‘Conscientiously Object Vaccination’ acknowledge (either by their own experience with vaccinated/unvaccinated children of friedns’) the damage done by the overload of toxins accumulated in developing bodies in an ever increasing number of doses of this invasive medical “treatment” which triggers (in a short, medium and long term ) crescent adverse reactions that cause damages in disguised of DNA mutation, syndromes of all kind, allergies, immunodeficiency, speech pathology problems, lower IQs, aggressive behavior, autism, ADHD, SIDS and the list goes on…

    Not mentioning what is explicitly expressed in the ‘Appendix 6: Definitions of adverse events following immunisation’ in the Australian Immunization Handbook: Abscess, Acute flaccid paralysis [diagnosis must be made by a physician], Allergic reaction (generalised), Anaphylaxis, Arthralgia, Arthritis, Brachial neuritis, Death, Disseminated BCG, Encephalopathy [diagnosis must be made by a physician], Encephalitis [diagnosis must be made by a physician], Extensive limb swelling, Injection site reaction (severe), Intussusception [diagnosis must be made by a hospital physician], Lymphadenitis (includes suppurative lymphadenitis), Meningitis [diagnosis must be made by a physician], Nodule, Orchitis, Osteitis, Osteomyelitis, Parotitis, Rash, Screaming (persistent), Seizure, Sepsis, Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis [diagnosis must be made by a physician], Syncope, Thrombocytopenia, Toxic shock syndrome [diagnosis must be made by a physician], Vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis, Vasovagal episode (syncope, faint).

    Any wonder why the Vaccine Lobby/Politician$ are “Targeting” the minority of parents (30.092 in Australia as at December2015, Immunise – ACIR – National Vaccine Objection Data) who conscientiously object this poison??? Maybe we KNOW something the rest of the parents who obediently and diligently follow the vaccination program don’t!!! And, by the way, will never be told about by the powers that be. Moreover, WE have our own children as a live proof of how much healthier they are without extra poisoning of their biological systems (as if we didn’t have already too much chemicals and toxics in our air, water, environment and food!). By the end of the day (at Kinder or Daycare) the teachers and other parents are realizing that the large majority of not vaccinated children don’t have alergies, syndromes, speech delays, behavior and mental problems, autism, cystic fibrosis, diabetes, asthma, etc.

    Well, I never tried to convince anyone to vaccinate or not – UNTIL NOW! And that’s exactly what every person(parent or not parent) that knows the truth should start to do since “they” are giving us no other option! Good Job “No Jab, No Pay/Play” team!!! Bad strategy though… It’s going to fire back against you 😮 🙂

    Now, before finally researching and asking for an ‘Exemption Conscientious Objection Form’ signed by a midwife (when I had my first daughter in the hospital and until her last vaccination when she was 6 months old), all they gave me before “jabbing” my baby was the vaccine pamphlets (full of vaccine propaganda) at the hospital and at the GP’s clinic. Is that “Informed Consent”? Why no one never ever gave me the ‘Australian Immunization Handbook’ instead of ‘Vaccine Propaganda’?

    Now “they” tell us that our Acquired Right with this Valid Exemption To Not Vaccinate in not recognized by “law” anymore so we can now take our children to a “program catch up” in order to access kindergarten and childcare facilities with “informed consent” still? And the Local Council Family Service Administration staff tell us that we still have the choice to not vaccinate? Well, yah! Not with a gun on our heads (yet)! Sorry, I must be missing something here… Since when is vaccination compulsory in this country? Besides, there are not even ONE Vaccine Injure Court here (opposed to in the USA). Are we in a COMMUNIST STATE already and we haven’t realized? Surely this is NOT the Australia that I want to leave to my children!

    And that’s what the “Immunize Australia Program” offers to “Protect” the Australian Population via a “Whole of Life” Register. The so called “Australian Government” creepily wants to IMPOSE vaccination from the Cradle to the Grave of each Citizen – even AGAINST THEIR WILL. This is clearly happening to the families “jabbing” their children not necessarily because they think they are doing what is best for their health, but because they Need the Benefit$ to Pay the Rent, Eat and also to have their kids not “PROHIBITED BY LAW” to go to preschool and Day Care so they can continue to work and have a roof over their heads!!!Is that CONSENT to VACCINATION FOR LIFE??? Maybe in Hitler’s and Stalin’s dreams 😉

    I have no words to describe how IMMORAL this is. Obviously, this is NOT about Health AT ALL. These “No Jab, No Pay/Play” are so UNREASONABLE, UNJUST, UNETHICAL and TOTALLY WRONG that they scream out loud “This is Not about People, this is Plain Busine$$”. Here is some of what is planned For Us from the “Factsheet Immunization Registers Expansion”
    (http://www.immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/67D8681A67167949CA257E2E000EE07D/$File/Factsheet-%20Immunisation-Registers-Expansion-23102015.pdf):

    “From 1 January 2016, the Australian Childhood Immunisation Register (ACIR) will broaden to
    capture immunisation information for young individuals under the age of 20 years, enabling
    implementation of the Australian Government’s No Jab, No Pay measure. The ACIR currently
    records vaccinations given to children aged less than seven years.
     From September 2016, the ACIR will expand further to become the Australian Immunisation Register
    (AIR) to capture all vaccines administered throughout a person’s life (birth to death), given through
    General Practice and community clinics. This will include all vaccines funded under the National
    Immunisation Program, as well as private vaccines given through general practice.
     This whole of life register will be ready to support the zoster virus vaccine being available on the
    National Immunisation Program (NIP) for 70 year olds (including a catch up programme for 71-79
    year olds), which is planned for November 2016. Other vaccines funded for adults under the NIP,
    which include seasonal influenza vaccine and pneumococcal vaccine, will also be captured by the
    AIR.
     From the 2017 school year, the HPV Register will be expanded to become the Australian School
    Vaccination Register (ASVR), which will capture all adolescent vaccinations given through school
    programmes. Vaccines to be recorded include varicella (chickenpox), the diphtheria, tetanus and
    pertussis (whooping cough) booster, and the HPV vaccine. This will provide tools such as recall and
    reminder systems to improve adolescent vaccination rates.”

    Unbelievable.

    Those who HIDE behind these unlawful laws, engaging in criminal activities against their fellow citizens only to ‘enforce’ “laws” that should be Morally and Legally REJECTED – these “public”(?) servant$ should be ASHAMED and run from publicity! Moreover, they should be prosecuted by the real politicians, judges, lawyers and citizens that know and understand what’s really going on “down under”.

    Thoughts from any committed parent, serious/honest lawyer, judge or legal expert concerning a CLASS ACTION by the parents affected by the “No Jab, No Pay/Play” Bill would be much appreciated.

    Here, an interesting quote for those parents who may feel unempowered by this grand scheme:

    “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has. – Margaret Mead.

  53. Soraya says:

    I just signed this Petition at Change.org that already has 2.256 supporters and it only needs more 244! All of you who are PRO CHOICE, support this cause and share it please. Thank you so much:

    “Petitioning Premier of Victorian State Government
    THE HON. DANIEL ANDREWS MP
    Remove NO JAB NO PLAY Victorian Legislation or
    Restore Conscientious Objection Option
    To Comply With Our Human Rights”

    By simon shields Newington, Australia

    https://www.change.org/p/australian-victorian-state-govt-must-remove-no-jab-no-play-victorian-legislation-or-restore-conscientious-objection-option

  54. theElses says:

    Hello everyone

    I’m a South African mom of 2 under 5 years old. My husband’s family live in Aus and we would like to immigrate in the next year or so, but I have chosen not to vax my babies. I started with my son but delayed them and declined a few. He had his second round (partial) at 10 weeks, and was a zombie for a week – for lack of a better term. He would wake up shrieking in terror or pain and would fight me off if I tried to comfort him – even until last year (3 years later). He was very ill and it was the last nudge I needed to make the decision not to vax further. He is a very intelligent and healthy boy, he saw a doc for the first time 2 months ago after catching tonsilitis at pre-school. My daughter is 2 and has never had a thing wrong with her beyond a high fever while cutting her eye-teeth.

    Will our decision not to vaccinate our children have a negative effect on our immigration application, and placing our babies into a school? We will be looking at the Brisbane area where my in-laws live, although I am not against living further where the climate is more moderate.

    I shall most certainly be signing the abovementioned petition, but please, I’d like to be kept up to speed on the out come and whether it will be problematic for us. I refuse to poison my treasures with all those horrible toxins, animal and aborted human fetal tissue! I cannot risk the dangers on my perfectly healthy and lively angels. God trusted me with their safe keeping and wellbeing, I take that charge very seriously!

  55. sharlene harris says:

    im not understanding how you get a conscientous objection..as i already had one 16years ago n now suddenly is non void n have felt bullied.. non supported n forced to have my sixteen year old injected..have been told that the only exemption is if your child is anaphylaxis????
    i just want to have the freedom of personal choice..

  56. AH says:

    Hello All 🙂

    Any advice for RN’s who have done their research and have a great aversion to vaccinating their children? -I am really fearful of being judged as a professional (and have already been for even so much as MENTIONING the topic and asking others what they think…)

    My son has had up to his 2nd year vaccinations and I’m just about to have a baby for whom I am SERIOUSLY considering not vaccinating and withdrawing my son from the schedule.

    Any other health professionals out there that feel the same?

    -Kind Regards

  57. MD AHSAN UL BARI says:

    Hi, I’m an international student here in Australia just finished my PhD in Biochemistry. I have a 5 months old son who born here in Australia and never went outside Australia until now. Both me and my wife decided not to vaccinate our little one as we understand the potential risk of vaccine in the aspect of molecular biology. Now I’m trying to get permanent residency in Australia under skilled migration visa which would be very easy for me to get. However, I’m bit concern whether my son will meet the medical examination requirements as the immigration authority will ask for his immunisation records. In this circumstances is there any chance of refusal of our skilled migration visa application as my son is not vaccinated? Where can I get the necessary information? Thank you

    Kind regards

  58. Oliver says:

    Hi all, thanks for all your great work AVN! I was just wondering if there is any crossover between the US and Australian Conscientious Objection/ or Medical Exemption forms? (https://parentsaganinstmandatoryvaccines.net/2015/08/18/do-not-sign-the-refusal-to-vaccinate-form/)
    People in the US are being warned that signing the Vaccination Refusal form is a trap for the folowing reasons:

    #1
    The document attaches a child ID # that will be identifiable in the electronic records system across the country. Everyone from the school to the NSA will be able to determine who is and who is not vaccinated.

    #2
    The scientific term for HPV vaccine is listed to discourage parents from making the connection to the dangerous vaccine for HPV called Gardasil. [See Gardasil: Former Merck Doctor predicts greatest medical scandal of all time]

    #3
    Establishing a vaccination history is part of the Police state registry system being set up to track your vaccination status.

    #4
    The CDC Vaccine Information Statement is pure unadulterated propaganda. The vaccination information coverup was documented and exposed in an extremely important paper Health Hazards of Disease Prevention (2011). Also see info about the CDC – #9 (below).

    #5
    Again the parent is misled to think the truth about vaccine risks is on the CDC web site.The doctor has the vaccine package inserts right in his/her office. Why is it not offered and explained to the parent? The physicians themselves may or may not have read them. However, physicians are certainly aware that if the parents read the ‘official risks’ put out by the drug corporations, they would refuse the vaccines. Full disclosure is almost NEVER a part of the process.

    #6
    “I understand the following: The risks and benefits of the recommended vaccine(s).” This of course would be agreeing to a false statement. You cannot understand the risks without reading and understanding the package inserts, therefore how can you answer in the affirmative? And what about all of the vaccine facts that aren’t even listed in the package inserts that have been ‘covered up’ for many years?

    #7
    Parents are falsely told that without vaccines their children could suffer dire illnesses but are not told the dire illnesses/injuries the vaccines themselves could cause . . . including death.

    #8
    This refers to the “herd immunity myth” of 1933, which has been proven unscientific over and over and over again. Simply put: if other children have been vaccinated – and the vaccines work – they won’t contract a disease from your child.

    #9
    Entities are listed as “strongly recommending” the vaccine schedule. Again however, parents are NOT given full disclosure as to exactly who/what the entities are and what their motivations might be. Listed on the Refusal to Vaccinate document are the following entities and a brief description of their motivation:

    The ‘physician’ – is rewarded for administering vaccines by higher reimbursements for his fees. His vaccine “rates” are checked to determine whether or not he/she is entitled to more money. Physicians, public health workers, and drug companies have all been given immunity from any possible lawsuits that may arise as a result of vaccine-caused injury or illness. In other words, if a vaccine harms your child or causes autism you cannot sue any of them. They all have a liability exemption.
    The American Academy of Pediatrics which is a corporation headquartered in the STATE OF ILLINOIS – that receives lots of money from drug corporations for advertising in their journal, etc. This organization relies heavily on what they falsely believe to be a “government” health advocacy agency known as the Center for Disease Control (CDC).
    The American Academy of Family Physicians which is a corporation headquartered in the STATE OF KANSAS – that also receives lots of money from drug corporations for advertising in their journal, etc. This organization also relies heavily on what they falsely believe to be a “government” health advocacy agency known as the Center for Disease Control (CDC).
    The Center for Disease Control (CDC) which is a corporation headquartered in the STATE OF GEORGIA. The CDC IS NOT PART OF A LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT. Repeat: the CDC IS NOT PART OF A LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT! It is a private for-profit corporation listed on Dun and Bradstreet that is chartered under the umbrella of the private for-profit UNITED STATES corporation with extremely close ties to the pharmaceutical companies and a sordid history of corruption. [See: CDC Exposed]

    Bottom line: all of the above “entities” make more money if they vaccinate our children and even more if our children get sick from the vaccines . . . including the pediatricians themselves.

    #10
    This is the broadest and most nefarious part of this document.
    “Nevertheless, I have decided at this time to decline . . . I know that failure to follow the recommendations about vaccination may endanger the health or life of my child and others . . . I therefore agree to tell all health care professionals in all settings what vaccines my child has not received because he or she may need to be isolated or may require immediate medical evaluation and tests that might not be necessary if my child had been vaccinated.”

    This is not only deceptive and untruthful [see numbers 2-8] it is asking you to confess that you know you are harming your child (and others) and don’t care. It is asking you to agree to inform any/all people who represent themselves as healthcare “professionals” (not defined) of your child’s vaccination record. You are also consenting to allow undefined healthcare professionals to remove your son or daughter from your care and place him or her in isolation for unproven or unknown exposure to a myriad of undefined communicable diseases – with or without testing.

    #11
    This is an admission that you understand this contractual document – and its significance – ‘in its entirety’. This means that you accept the false information sited as factual, chose NOT to do what you now know to be good for your child and others (are negligent), obligate yourself to embarrass and confuse your child by tracking and reporting on the vaccines you protected your child from, and give permission for your child to be tested or removed from your care and put in isolation for any ‘supposed’ exposure to any ‘undefined’ communicable disease by anyone calling themselves a healthcare worker. [Ohio Revised Code 3701.13]

    In short, the form wants you to attest to the following . . . in writing and in the presence of a witness:

    You understand you are signing a contract with performance requirements
    You accept false information as factual and don’t care
    You don’t care if your child or others are harmed by your decision
    You agree to volunteer to all pretend healthcare workers your child’s vaccine record
    You agree to allow others to test and/or isolate your child for unproven exposure to a disease

    #12
    Here is the kicker. As you are asked to sign, initial and date this document in front of a witness, should a custody dispute ever arise (either between parents or with Child Protective Services) this document could be used against the mother or father that signed it.

    In defense of physicians, they have been told – via the instructions accompanying the Refusal to Vaccinate document – that parents could sue them should their sons or daughters come down with any of the diseases vaccines are supposed to prevent. Their fear of being sued is why physicians are so insistent that parents sign the Refusal to Vaccinate document. An excellent alternative, for both physician and parent, is the Vaccination Notice. This notice corrects misconceptions about vaccines, the herd immunity myth, and the CDC. It also brings the liability (or lack thereof) to the physicians attention. See The Vaccination Notice.

    https://parentsaganinstmandatoryvaccines.net/2015/08/18/do-not-sign-the-refusal-to-vaccinate-form/

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