In 2007, Scott and Deanna Gromowski’s ”lil’ sunshine“, Ian Larsen Gromowski, died of an adverse reaction to the hepatitis Bvaccine. Their hope is that, through the family’s experience and the photos documented on their website, Ian’s life will inspire others to learn about the risks ofvaccines. The Gromowski’s encourage all to see what Ian endured to grasp the depth of pain that characterized most of his life.
Read the full story here, http://www.iansvoice.org
How many more children have to suffer through the “greed” from “BIG PHARMA.” When will the government insist that the Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated study should be done.
Not all children should be vaccinated because there are individuals susceptible to the ingredients- and no-one has a “blueprint” of your DNA so no-one will ever know how you will react.
Mum to vaccine injured son.
All vaccines have a very small risk of causing very serious, and potentially lethal, adverse effects. A child dying because of complications from a vaccination is absolutely disastrous and terrible. However, adults dying from hepatocellular carcinoma don’t exactly enjoy the experience, either, and there are a lot more of them than there are Ians.
The risk of your child dying in a car accident is much higher than the chances of dying or being permanently damaged by a vaccine. Should we refuse to let our kids travel in cars?
Your estimation of risk is based on less than 10% of the serious reactions being reported and / or acknowledged. Instead of repeating a factually inaccurate figure, why don’t you join with the AVN in asking the government to require reporting of ALL reactions following drugs and vaccines with penalties if reporting is not done? Then – and only then – we will be able to work out whether the benefits really do outweigh the risks.
The rates of adverse reactions to many drugs can indeed be underestimated due to poor reporting. However, major adverse events are typically reported at a high rate as most people, and their doctors, are unlikely to ignore significant problems (seizures, anaphylaxis, permanent disability, etc.) while many mild or transient health problems do indeed go unreported (mild nausea, headache, lethargy, etc.).
The list of potential adverse effects noted in the product information sheet that accompanies medications, including vaccines, includes just about every adverse event that happened to anyone in either phase III clinical trials of the drug, or in large post-licensing studies or based on post-marketing reporting by doctors to agencies such as the Australian Adverse Drug Reaction Reporting System. Because safety is a high priority, especially with vaccines, the regulatory bodies involved do not even impose a burden of proof; that is, even if there is no good evidence that the drug/vaccine _caused_ whatever adverse event is being described, the simple temporal correlation is enough to have such events included on that list of possible side effects of the drug.
This means that, contrary to your assertion that less than 10% of serious events being reported, we tend to end up with a long list of adverse events that are quite probably not related to the drug at all, along with those that are caused by it. This amounts to an overestimation, or over-reporting, rather than the other way around, in most cases.
Chis – that 1-10% figure of reported reactions isn’t just something I pulled out of thin air. That was the figure that the head of ADRAC told me and it isn’t just reactions to vaccines but to all pharmaceutical drugs. One would hope that the reporting rate would be higher in serious reactions, but there is no evidence this is the case. All you have to do is look at the recent experience in WA where hundreds of babies and young children were hospitalised with seizures immediately following flu vaccines to see that there was no reporting until after the fact when the parents themselves got up in arms. Doctors do NOT want to accept responsibility for having caused this type of harm (which is understandable) and they are also woefully ill-informed about the real risks of drugs and vaccines – a dangerous combination. So my ‘assertion’ about the 10% maximum rate of reporting isn’t an assertion at all – it is borne out by the government and their authorities. Perhaps instead of trying to prove me wrong, you should be joining me in trying to get the government to require reporting of adverse reactions with penalties if reporting is refused? Then and only then will we have a better idea of what the REAL risks of medical drugs and vaccines are.
Chris, I choose to allow my child to travel in a car with me.
I did not have a choice when he was grabbed from me and jabbed! He is now suffering long term “severe adverse effects” from the vaccines.
Taking into account the merits of my case – travelling in a car is a lot safer!
Mum to vaccine injured son.
I’m sorry to hear your son is/was not in good health. Watching anyone suffer is unpleasant; watching children, especially your own, suffer and not be able to help them is awful.
I wasn’t there, and so can’t comment on your experience, but I find it difficult to believe anyone would literally take a child from you and vaccinate him against your wishes, except in the most exceptional circumstances (e.g. there have been cases where babies of HepB +ve mothers have been “involuntarily” vaccinated due to the much higher risk of not vaccinating). It would certainly be astonishingly rare that such a thing would happen in an Australian health care setting these days.
However, personal experiences aside, even taking your case into account doesn’t change the fact that vaccination is still certainly safer than traveling by car. Anecdotal evidence can be very compelling to those who experience it directly, and to those who know you or trust or respect your opinion, but it still incorrect to generalise from one bad outcome to “all vaccination is bad”, and that is even allowing that, for example, it was unequivocally proven that your son’s poor health was/is caused by a vaccine.
Chris,
I agree with you on one point, “You were not there and therefore you do not understand any of my circumstances and are making quite a few assumptions.”
My son was grabbed and jabbed and now is vaccine injured and travels quite safely in a car each day.
I have bever seen a baby grabbed and jabbed!! Vaccination is always a choice and as parents it is our duty to be informed and consent (or not) to whatever is offered to our children.
Hi Jo,
Your experience may not be wide on this issue but I have personally known quite a few people whose children have either been vaccinated without their knowledge or without their consent. It happens.
I would never comment on someone else’s level of experience! Just for info though, my experience is extremely “wide”. While you may know ‘quite a few people’ this does translate to the general experience (you may have linked with these people through common experience). I have no doubt ‘it happens’ but as I said, I never seen ‘grabbing’. I think we need to be careful with our language if we want to be taken seriously.
Jo, your implication was that because you personally had never seen a child grabbed and vaccinated, it never happened. I am telling you it has. And yes, we need to be careful with our language – you might want to take that on board yourself.
Oops, shoudl have said does not translate!!!
That was not my implication – as I said I haver no doubt it occurs. Please let me know which part of my language I need to be careful with and I will certainly take that on board. I hope you will do the same. Informed consent is somehting we all need to band together for.
The part that said “I have never seen a baby grabbed and jabbed!!”
OK????????????? (It was a factual statement – The ‘I’ made it clear it was my own experience and the “grabbed” was directly from the post I was replying to.) Fair enough though?
Jo
I was never, ever asked whether I give my consent to vaccinate any of my children. I well and truly interpret it as “GRAB & JAB!”